Atheism a Genuine Mental Disorder

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Atheism a Genuine Mental Disorder
Tweet Topic Started: Jun 19 2009, 04:11 PM (2,321 Views)
Finta646	Jun 23 2009, 12:52 PM Post #46
Posts: 441 Group: Member Member #3,954 Joined: February 2, 2009 Favourite Anime Sailor Moon, DBZ, InuYasha, Shana What Browser do you use? Internet Explorer & Firefox Favourite Manga n/a	Kotetsu Jun 22 2009, 03:31 AM Finta646 Jun 22 2009, 12:33 AM GodsChild Jun 19 2009, 08:43 PM Hello, GodsChild here. Hi Finta646, with enough understanding and studing of the Atheism condition, it could be classed as a mental disorder, before anyother mental disoder was discovered, they had no idea what it was or if it was a medical condition. So if they put serious research into this, they could find some evidance that it is. Thankyou There is no such thing as "the Atheist Condition", as I have said before, it is a belief, not a disorder. I understand that it takes time before classifying a mental disorder, however, it wont matter how much research is put into this specific study, there would not be enough evidence to actually verify that a belief is a mental disorder. For one thing, you cannot say that not believing in God is a symptom of anything because there is nothing mentally wrong with a person who chooses not to believe in one. It would be the same as someone saying the the belief in a God, or many Gods is a mental disorder, no matter how you phrase it, a belief will only be a belief, not a condition. Beliefs are after all, Mental Conditions. In order for you to believe something, doesn't your mind have to be in a certain condition to accept it? The way the brain works to accept a belief or not based on a biological level depends on weather or not the person already had a pre-exisiting belief. To accept something when the person is willing, it means that the brain does not translate the message as a threat, but there are times that a person can be persuaded without even knowing it, they cannot distinguish between induced and considered belief, these people can either believe in God or not, the brain was designed based on survival, not on perception, so beliefs can be altered this way, but that does not change the fact that the meaning of a belief, and what the brain does to accept that belief is no where near a mental disorder and you cannot have an "atheist condition", only an atheist belief. The reason the term "condition" doesnt suit this is because its implying that there is something wrong when there isnt.
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Rockman	Jun 24 2009, 03:25 PM Post #47
hoighty-toighty Posts: 11,070 Group: Guardian Member #48 Joined: December 17, 2004 Gender Male Country United States What Browser do you use? Firefox, when it isn't crashing.	Mitas Jun 23 2009, 08:08 AM I don't think you can choose to be religious. It depends on your character and personality whether you are religious, and it depends on your upbringing and social surrounding which religion you believe. Crack Fox is right in saying certain events can turn you away or bring you into religion, but is that really your choice. You didn't choose for the event to happen, it just happened, and you can't control how it will affect you, so you're not really choosing to become religious, or move away from religion, if that is the way it has affected you. When you say this, I can't help but point out that everyone has a certain amount of "religiousness." What makes it not a choice, is that amount that each person holds. It can be a choice to jump from one religion to another, but that doesn't conflict with what I just said. That person remains with the same amount they once had. What makes an atheist is their lack there-of. Meaning little to no level of the aforementioned. This also explains why it's impossible or improbable to convert a person either way. And also explains why, even if the person has an environment rich in theism from birth, they still turn to atheism as an intrinsic value. I also would like to point out to Finta, that while yes, it may not be considered a disorder, it still is an order. However, if one considers everything as relative and anything as neither right or wrong, then theism and atheism can both be considered a mental disorder. This is an entirely different way of thinking all together, and can be disputed because it lacks rationality. Otherwise, I don't see any problems with what Finta just said. Still, i'm making you all think about this for a second. Because while I may disagree with it being a mental disorder, there are points to be made here that most people don't see.
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Temphis	Jun 25 2009, 01:11 AM Post #48
Rampaging Explosion of Euphoric Glory! Posts: 1,223 Group: Member Member #3,903 Joined: January 6, 2009 Gender Male Favourite Anime Ghost in the Shell: S.A.C., Katananagari, Mushishi, Full Metal: Brotherhood, CowboyBeebop, Monster What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Gantz, Berserk, One Punch Man, Dragon Ball, One Piece, Attack on Titan, Re: Monster, (no more room)	as interesting as the discussions on this topic has become in this forum, I would like to state I feel Godschild made a mistake in addressing his views the way he did. I am dissapointed he felt he had to share his views like that, completely disreegarding the fact that people believe what they do because of the experiences they have had, not just because they choose to. and it really tempts me to say a few things concerning how it's utterly counter productive to use the approach that he did, but I don't even know if he is still reading all these remarks, since (1), if this is a troll he doesn't care, and (2), if he means what he said, there is little likelyhood of him having the ability to care about how other people think. therefor, I don't feel I should waste my time and try to tell him what he did wrong, rather, post my oppenion on this view so that it still serves a purpose and isn't an utter waste of a post. okay, that being said, I feel that not only are peoples views based on their experiences and circumstances, but that they choose to believe things through experiences because they feel inclined to based on their desires. aithiesm is most certainly not a mental disorder, and neither are other religions, they are merely a view of guidelines and possible explanations to lives deeper questions, while Athiesm, I feel, is just the natural view point that EVERYONE is inclined to believe, until they have experiences that provide evidence to the contrary. I feel there is nothing wrong with being Athiest, so long as you have reason to be so, likewise, there is nothing wrong with being religious, SO LONG AS YOU HAVE REASON TO BE SO. otherwise, you are following guidelines or personal desires without any sort of purpose or meaning, and are living contrary to the experiences you have recieved. however, people do have a choice, to an extent, to believe what they want, weather they really feel that way or not. thats not a mental disorder, it's a choice. A mental disorder would be, someone being constrained by an inability to think rationally or with an inablility to understand/comprehend certain things, no matter their degree of experiences. an example of this could be a narcesist who dosn't have the capacity to understand they can do any wrong, or a sociopath who enjoys breaking culteral taboo's like commiting rape and murder, and all other manner of attrocities, and tries to relieve the experiences that would normally haunt someone for the rest of their life, rather than try on forget and move on.



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